Helen, I came across the You Tube version of the interview yesterday (Wednesday 29 July) and listened in then. Ms Murphy provides interesting context and reinforces some of your points. In my view Allison Morris was all over the shop, ad hominen attacks, guilt by association, whataboutery - there wasn't one weapon in the arsenal of bad faith (and bad arguments) which she didn't fail to employ. I hope that you do get some form of apology or correction in the (Belfast Telegraph) newspaper - but I'm not holding my breath. The wagons will - I believe - inevitably form a defensive circle in order protect one of their own. I would love to be proved wrong.
It really did enrage me. They have to lie, don’t they? Lie, and attack the opponent not the opponent’s argument; because the truth IS the opponent’s argument. I don’t know how you do it Helen, but thank you.
I did listen to the interview a couple of days ago. My god AM was awful - using various manipulations and dishonest arguments . Whilst listening it crossed my mind that AM was worse than Helen Webberley - which really takes some doing. My blood pressure couldn’t take listening to it again. I also thought the presenter was very weak and allowing AM to repeatedly talk over Helen. Helen did a brilliant job as usual confronting this wicked gender ideology
Oh, that was a hard listen! My pulse rate went up as soon as this so-called journalist began to attack Helen who managed to counter every single unpleasant remark with a stone cold fact.
I am not sure it is worth debating "trans" or their allies/believers. They are not into open discussion. True, the listeners can learn something about our fact based arguments, but perhaps they learn just as much from us being interviewed by an unbiased interviewer. and the toll on you is not worth it. Talking to captured folks I find utterly exhausting and discouraging and sometimes just useless.
Thank you for keeping your cool under such intense fire from a driven and dangerous opponent. To an outsider she might seem initially to have some righteous indignation, but after listening to her behaviour (talking over you, bringing in extraneous issues, dismissing your arguments as "extremist" on no evidence at all, etc) an impartial audience would be left saying to themselves: "Allison Morris is a bully". And bullies don't win arguments.
Helen, I came across the You Tube version of the interview yesterday (Wednesday 29 July) and listened in then. Ms Murphy provides interesting context and reinforces some of your points. In my view Allison Morris was all over the shop, ad hominen attacks, guilt by association, whataboutery - there wasn't one weapon in the arsenal of bad faith (and bad arguments) which she didn't fail to employ. I hope that you do get some form of apology or correction in the (Belfast Telegraph) newspaper - but I'm not holding my breath. The wagons will - I believe - inevitably form a defensive circle in order protect one of their own. I would love to be proved wrong.
It really did enrage me. They have to lie, don’t they? Lie, and attack the opponent not the opponent’s argument; because the truth IS the opponent’s argument. I don’t know how you do it Helen, but thank you.
I did listen to the interview a couple of days ago. My god AM was awful - using various manipulations and dishonest arguments . Whilst listening it crossed my mind that AM was worse than Helen Webberley - which really takes some doing. My blood pressure couldn’t take listening to it again. I also thought the presenter was very weak and allowing AM to repeatedly talk over Helen. Helen did a brilliant job as usual confronting this wicked gender ideology
I listened to the MJ Murphy version - what a bigoted and ignorant person Allison Morris is, and someone who can’t admit when she gets the facts wrong.
While Helen was her usual sane and sensible self.
So basically she thinks so what if predatory men have another opportunity to attack women since they already have so many other opportunities.
Thanks, Helen, I think I'll wait for your article!
Oh, that was a hard listen! My pulse rate went up as soon as this so-called journalist began to attack Helen who managed to counter every single unpleasant remark with a stone cold fact.
I am not sure it is worth debating "trans" or their allies/believers. They are not into open discussion. True, the listeners can learn something about our fact based arguments, but perhaps they learn just as much from us being interviewed by an unbiased interviewer. and the toll on you is not worth it. Talking to captured folks I find utterly exhausting and discouraging and sometimes just useless.
Thank you for keeping your cool under such intense fire from a driven and dangerous opponent. To an outsider she might seem initially to have some righteous indignation, but after listening to her behaviour (talking over you, bringing in extraneous issues, dismissing your arguments as "extremist" on no evidence at all, etc) an impartial audience would be left saying to themselves: "Allison Morris is a bully". And bullies don't win arguments.