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Jun 23Edited

I read through the student magazine piece in some amazement. If the illogical statements by SU Trans Association and Queersphere in the "Palatinate" magazine are in any way representative of university level rhetorical standards and debate, this has got to be of great concern. The following points struck me.

After affirming that it is indeed the legal right of the SU to invite whomever they wish to speak to members, they then request the union to "account for itself". Erm, why does the SU need to account for itself if the right to invite a person to speak on any subject is just that? Furthermore, who gave the SU Trans Association the authority to request or hold someone to account in this respect? Where did they get the idea that the event's purpose was to shock and offend? Did it not even occur to them that the aim of the event might be to discuss and inform on what is undoubtedly a controversial and emotive issue? Why would you automatically assume bad faith?

Nowhere is it explained exactly how the decision to invite Helen Joyce to speak to the DUS was in any way an "irresponsible and uncaring" one?

The reference to "Trans joy" is somewhat scuppered by the statement that trans persons were (allegedly) feeling "very very nervous" "depressed" and struggling to come to terms with the fact that Helen Joyce was even coming to Durham! Trans joy must be a hugely fragile concept if even the thought of a gender critical person turning up at an event provokes such claimed anguish.

Congratulations to Helen and the DUS for holding firm and continuing with the event. It is shameful in a supposedly free society that so many hoops have to be jumped through, weak reasoning and cowardice confronted and overcome, simply to have a debate.

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This is a reminder that when I challenged trans extremism in the House of Commons I later received none of the abuse and threats experienced by Rosie Duffield and Joanna Cherry. Do the extremists understand their sexism?

I also recall the shouters outside the first LGB Alliance conference at QEII admitting none had read the books by Kathleen Stock and Helen Joyce.

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